how many times have i said too much government. in this case the fda needs more teeth in the situation because they have to be able to insure sterility. things like this don't get into our injections. the other problem is we don't usually see this kind of meningitis. we don't see fungal meningitis. it can be causing fevers and headaches and stiff necks or it can take weeks to come about. several weeks -- [talking over each other] charles: it can result in death. >> when you say 13,000 people may have been exposed it is a little misleading because i don't believe 13,000 people have been exposed. that is how many people theoretically it could have gotten into that many of files and went to that many doses. is probably far less but we don't know yet. ashley: can we say the worst is over and we just have to wait to see -- have they cleaned up the problem with this particular place that was making love compound steroids? is it fixed and can this happen again? >> this company is no long-term making steroids. that is fixed. we don't know